Some passersby are not pleased with a Baraboo motel co-owner's quip about the ongoing attempt to recall Republican Gov. Scott Walker.
The quip - highly political at best, borderline obscene at worst - is on display on the marquee in front of the motel on county Highway BD north of Baraboo.
The message, spelled out in plastic block lettering on the motel's roadside marquee: "RECALL THE KOCH SUCKER NOW!"
"This is ridiculous," said Bill Weitzel of Baraboo, who drove by the motel on Monday morning.
The marquee's language refers to billionaire businessman David Koch, whom a blogger impersonated during an infamous February prank telephone call to Republican Gov. Scott Walker.
It was during that conversation - which Walker believed was private - that the governor said he "thought about" planting troublemakers among protestors upset about his bill to curtail collective bargaining for most public employees.
"There have been some vocal critics (of the sign), but also, there has been overwhelming support," said Marcie Dachik, co-owner of the Four Winds Motel.
She said it's her First Amendment right to display the sign, which she said is intended to catch the eye and inspire discussion.
Critics, such as Weitzel, say the sign's obvious pornographic reference is lewd.
"I don't know how anyone in a business - regardless of what they think or who they're in opposition to - could put something like this on their sign," Weitzel said.
But Dachik said the anti-Walker slogan hasn't hurt business. In fact, she said, it has helped.
"By and large, people have said, ‘If I ever have a reason to, I will go out of my way to stay here' because of the sign," Dachik said.
Others say the motel should voluntarily remove the display, regardless of whether its owners have a legal right to display it.
"You know, people with kids are driving by. And you know there are little kids who are 8, 9, 10 years old who are old enough to be able to read that and might say, ‘Mommy, what does that mean?'" said Andrea Lombard, a Sauk County supervisor and first vice chairwoman of the Republican Party of Sauk County. "Well, how does Mommy explain that? I'm not sure."
Rachel Stieve of Baraboo, who said she supports Walker's actions, said a child in her vehicle asked her about the sign as they drove by it on the way to school one morning.
Stieve wrote a letter to the editor of the News Republic that was critical of the motel. The letter generated more than 40 comments on the newspaper's website.
Dachik said this isn't the first controversial display that has adorned the motel's marquee. Others have involved gay rights and a statewide referendum on gay marriage.
"It's not like I didn't know it would be controversial when I put it up," Dachik said.
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haha
I think this is GREAT! Rock on Marcie Dachik!
And for critics such as Weitzel, what's lewd is that we have Scott Walker for a Governor. At least for a little while longer.
Hmmm..we have the Kardasians on national television, and people complain about this? Get a life..and by the way..the Gov Walker recall is going nowhere. If the Koch brother choose to support Gov Walker, so be it.. If a liberal democrat were to be elected, it would be with the money of WEAC, or the labor unions, or teamsters. What's the difference?
Well, at least the Highway 12 bypass is complete so people don't have to drive by this eye sore dump to see the inappropriate sign.
The wrongness of the sign is emblematic of how far we have descended as a society.... and the funny thing is that it is OK to most people. Just because you can legally kill babies, worship the devil, urinate on our flag, deficate on police cars, idolize the talentless, and post lewd signs does not make it right to do so. We have lost our moral compass and many people just don't care. What is most disturbing is the fact that many people justify this low-brow behavior under the guise of freedom- free to choose, free to worship, free to politic, free speech, etc. Again I ask..... just because you can...... should you? Shouldn't we aspire to a higher level of discourse and behavior? God expects more of us and even if you don't believe in Him, as human beings we are certianly better than this! Let there be peace on Earth and let it begin with me.
I drive by that sign several times a day.....second time they have had it up. Obviously felt they hadn't made their point the first time. And the reason it hasn't hurt business is they RARELY have any unless they have invisible vehicles. Everything that is posted on their sign is SOOO
far left this isn't surprising. The problem is it is pronounced COKE. Guess they hope everyone is as ignorant as they are!! Also they must not know the Koch brothers have contributed to many Dems as well should we recall them as well?
This recall is like a mulligan and life normally isn't like that. People must live with the decisions they make good or bad. In my opinion the right decision was made to save this state. We should have recalled Doyle when he was ILLEGALLY stealing money from funds he had no right to touch!!! Just saying...
Oh going no where...how many recall signatures do those evil people have...LOL
[quote]Merrimacferry said: "Hmmm..we have the Kardasians on national television, and people complain about this? Get a life..and by the way..the Gov Walker recall is going nowhere. If the Koch brother choose to support Gov Walker, so be it.. If a liberal democrat were to be elected, it would be with the money of WEAC, or the labor unions, or teamsters. What's the difference?"[/quote]
I think this sign is funny. I'm not offended at all and I do not live far away from this business. It's their sign, their property. If you don't like it, simply don't look! Its their business and if they loose any patronage then its their business. I see many signs in homes that simply state "Recall Walker", good for them for standing up and being funny at the same time. This business has a bit more balls and I'm proud they are being this open for what they believe in. My comment here is my personal opinions and its the United States so... It's my right to say GOOD FOR THEM!!! *holds up my glass for a cheer*
It's easy to see why this motel is such a dive when the owners seem to not understand how to pronounce their last name.
[quote]Rightlightning said: "The wrongness of the sign is emblematic of how far we have descended as a society "
I've had my boots on the ground collecting signatures to recall Scott Walker and I'll agree with Rightlightning. I find it alarming that anyone defending a so called "conservative" takes the time to circle the block several times to flip me off - spit at me and shout obsceneties from thier car window. And they will do it with children in thier vehicle ! - what are you teaching them? I do believe in free speech, and money is not and never shouldequal free speech.
Columbuscharlie well put. While I disagree with the protesters and recall efforts here in WI, I nor would anyone I associate with, deface a sign, harrass a person collecting signatures or bother a protester. There are plenty of examples of bad behavior on both sides and I am doing my best to teach my children what rational and lucid political discourse is. Fortunately(or unfortunately) for me, I have plenty of examples to point out. What scares me is that the generation that is DA22 does not see anything wrong with the sign. Today, apparently, it is OK to judge the morality of an action based on the outcome of the action and not the action itself. Oh what a slippery slope and one that premises that there is no higher power watching you. How far down this slope will our society fall?
Walker is the taxpayers' employee. He has cried poverty while channeling retirement monies into corporate welfare. While Wisconsin's reknowned education system is being dismantled so that private investors can capture education $$$ - we still get the bill that keeps going up - all on the pretense of paying off the bills. Nevermind that Walker has put even more on the state's credit card while channeling massive amounts of corporate welfare. As long as some can bury their heads in the sand and hear only Walker is wonderful ADS - who cares?
I applaud this courageous hotel owner. Most business owners don't dare take a stand for fear of retribution from the right.
The owner of that dump is acting like a complete moron, idiot, or several other words I'd like to use!
As has been said, rarely do they have any business anyway, and who would want to associate with a fool like this.
OH, I forgot the lefties who agreed that, (after their feet were put to the fire), contributing toward their retirement and health insurance would be ok, (even though it is a contribution much less than the private citizen that is "their boss", but now they raise all kinds of hell because their "collective bargaining on wages has been taken away". That's because they recognize that there unions won't be able to build up these huge benefits as they have in the past. Walker has "undone'"only some of the hiway robbery that has occurred over the last 20 or 30 years as the unions (and teachers),have milked the system for all they could get! Tell me it has not been a "gravy train", then make me believe it !!! Proving to be LOSERS!!! Stupid losers at that!
If one is going to talk trash, an occasional familiarity with the actual facts can
be quite helpful. There is a huge difference between a pension fund raid from
high performing, hard working citizens and a big bad union fight with imaginary villians.
When one considers that Bachmann sees elimination of a minimum wage as an employment
strategy and Sen Ron Johnson has publicly stated that "good employees don't expect momimum wage - they work their way up" to a living wage...how can anyone with an intact conscience support Walker's anti worker agenda. Name calling is the hallmark of the uninformed argeument.
I now what I think don’t count for much but Mrs. Lombard is a leader and roll model is what I hear. She might tell her little kids about this matter same as she explained about Mr. Hardy “Jew in down” some guy when he said that. I sure she did that real good. It mean trying to get something cheaper cause its a business term. And writing that sign mean are governor sucks up to guys named Koch cause its a political term. Mrs. Lombard looks out for are children and kudos to her for been so inconsistent. Me and my boys like are governor cause him and Mrs. Lombard cut from the same cloth. That Mr. Mighty is pretty good to cause he speak his mind and is not embarrassed by it He hates the same people me and the boys and are governor and Mrs. Lombard hates. TIAIHGTSAT! accept Merry Christmas.
I love the sign and I love the BNR for placing it on the front page of their newspaper. I also love the haters response to the sign.
I still don't understand if Walker is doing such a fine job, why are people so upset and why is he trying so hard to fight the recall.
As anyone noticed when driving through WI the signs; average, middle class WI have the recall signs in their yards while big businesses supoort Walker....hmmmmm
[quote]Merrimacferry said: "Hmmm..we have the Kardasians on national television, and people complain about this? Get a life..and by the way..the Gov Walker recall is going nowhere. If the Koch brother choose to support Gov Walker, so be it.. If a liberal democrat were to be elected, it would be with the money of WEAC, or the labor unions, or teamsters. What's the difference?"[/quote]
Agreed!
“If a liberal democrat were to be elected, it would be with the money of WEAC, or the labor unions, or teamsters. What's the difference?" asks imbobim.
The difference, as I see it, is that the Kochs are multi-billionaires. Consequently, if either David or Charles chooses to write a personal check for several thousand or several million dollars to a PAC or candidate, he can, and they have. The individual members of a union are (of course, it goes without saying) thugs , blood-suckers, and gravy-train-riding miscreants, but they are miscreants of modest middle-class material means (if they are lucky). So, to exercise any political clout, thousands of them must band together to make meaningful political contributions. The difference would seem apparent, would it not?
Venetian Casino magnate Shel Addlestone is reportedly writing a $20 million personal check to the Gingrich campaign. He has thousands of unionized employees. Think they could come up with that for an opponent?
I'd fly to Wisconsin just to stay at this hotel and give my support. And a bunch of perverted minded people here thinking this is "lewd", I wouldn't trust none of these people with my kids...quit watching porn...God's watching you...
What exactly is a "COKE SUCKER"? is that a sucker flavored coke? Funny how the owners and the people who think this sign is ok, don't even realize the sign doesn't really say what they WANT it to sound like.
One more thought. As we hear about the fraud in collecting signatures, we must remember, they can sign 100 times if they want, but, thanks to our new voter ID law, they can only vote ONCE!
Yes, it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in or feel strongly about. The Dachik's aren't the only courageous one's here, though, the folks who feel the sign is in poor taste and are willing to say so publicly are courageous as well .The difference is the manner in which those opinions are conveyed. If one feels that the Dachik's sign is "courageous"... consider taking a few minutes to look up the definition of "ignorant"... it'll be a big "aha" moment, I bet.
Guess its advertising liberal education in WI
Courage is easy on the internet. Lots of snarky cowboys on this comment board.
Free speech is always more tolerable when you agree with the speaker.
Sadly, there are far too many tea baggers who only respect Constitutionally
gauranteed rights when it suites their politics.
I think what they want to put up is just fine with me, dont like it dont drive by. Personally I love it and truer words have never been said. Good Job.
I am sure that they know it is pronounced Coke. The truth hurts huh!?!
WisconsinPatriot said on: December 20, 2011, 1:07 pm
"Most business owners don't dare take a stand for fear of retribution from the right. "
So say's the "Lefty" who's minions started a boycott 6 months ago against businesses and festivals that supported Scott Walker. You can take your hypocritical foot out of ye mouth now WisconsinPatriot, before you choke on it.
Well what do you expect when our crooked governor gives taxpayers' education
dollars to private school cronies? Sure as shootin, fella, ur right - it's a school
Walker style.
Good for the motel owners! Time to rid WI and America of fascism once and for all!
"Wisconsin's reknowned education system is being dismantled so that private investors can capture education $"
I just picked that at random to show the ignorance on the left.
(plenty 'o' ignorance from the right too, mellow out)
The sign is disgusting. People defending it twist and flail to justify it.
It's just as bad a painting Obama's face to look like the Joker.
Rightlightning said it the best. We have devolved. Where is common decency?
Remember when your Mom would answer your ignorant statements with =
"If Johnny jumped off a bridge would you jump too?"
The coarsening of our society can only happen with our consent.
Yes, reknowned. Don't worry though. Your boy Walker is going for the health care model....you know privatized - where you get what you can afford. Money is made by curtailing service and hiring staff based on the lowest wages possible. More money is pocketed by denying service althogether. A for profit education system modeled after our failed and extremely expensive Corporate health care system will make a few CEOS very happy, no doubt, but give future generations no chance in life. How you Walker people sleep well at night or hold your heads high in the very front pew...is beyond my understanding.
I created an account here to write that were I not living in a state not anywhere near Wisconsin I'd stay at this hotel even if it was a little out of the way. :o)
500,000 signatures in ONE MONTH....go for a million, recall reps!!!
Buckybacker said "It's easy to see why this motel is such a dive when the owners seem to not understand how to pronounce their last name”.
I agree cause I don't know how to say "Dachik" neither for sure. But you would think the Dachik people would now how to say there last name. And an other guy that don’t say his name right is that basketball coach at Duke Mr. Krzyzewski and he said it like it is Shishesky. and now so is everybody else doing it. Anyway Mr Buckybacker makes a real good point kind a like a moral which would be people who don’t now how to say their own name should not own a motel. Course it might be sadly the Dachiks have speech implements and DO NOW how to say it but just can’t cause a there speech implements. Elmer Fudd and Daffy Duck are celebrities with speech implements and Mike Tyson to. I do not now if they can say there last names and couldn't care less. What is in a name other then letters. So what is the big deal. TIAIHGTSAT. accept happy new years to all to.
It's easy to see why some on here favor this type of action. It's known that democrats like this type of dump that advertises porn and rents rooms by the hour. After all their fleabag heros hid out in a dump like this in Rockford.
I'm sure the owners of the hotel would gladly pay more room tax, property tax, income tax, and of course charge more Sales tax if he could. Maybe they could just write a big old check for all of us so that we can keep our taxes where they are? After all isn't that what he is saying...by recalling Walker and voting in a new governor, they are saying...PLEASE raise our taxes and/or not balance the budget. I think everyone who thinks the sign is great should take a picture of there grandchildren or children standing in front of sign and send it out on a Christmas card. If you think that is rediculous, then why do you think it is ok?
Explaination 1. to give the kiddo in the car, Koch Industries own the governor. 2.They owe the State of Wisconsin back taxes in the millions.3.They own more gas pipeline in the state and they want to continue to make billions of of them when they grow up. 4.They own GP and don't like thier employees to be unionized. Having to pay fair wages and healthcare is not their way.5. Koch brothers inherited thier money from Daddy Koch who made his money with building oil rigs in Russia and Germany. Daddy Koch was a socialist. 6. Koch is pronouced Coke. 7. David and Charles Koch are Libitarians. 8.They are the second richist in the USA. 9. Politicians like to get money from rich folks to fund thier campaigns and then they give the rich the changes in laws they want. 10. Koch Brothers now have your school funds to pay for thier big fancy houses and boats because they don't want you to be educated. 11. They control the news so you don't see it. 12. Therefore the sign.
@Kathorse
The only flaw I can see in your numbered points are 1-11.
RecallscottWalker.com was created Nov2nd 2010 even before Walker was swore in, that is a proven FACT. The Dems lost total control in 2010 thus want a "do-over". Which leads us to your only correct point. #12 "Therefore the sign. "
Kathorse...
Politicians like to get money from folks to fund thier campaigns and then they give them the changes in laws they want.
Sounds like WEAC?
As I read through the commentary I see a lot of name calling and insults, mostly coming from the rights. Too bad. It only proves the sad path this state is going down with "sheeple" leading the way. Do your homework. If you are not rich in this state, you will somehow be negatively affected by the actions of the immoral, hypocritical governor. PS- and the term "sheeple" is not an insult. It is simply the loving term I refer to the group of people that are blindly following the right, and usually shop at Walmart. Those are the ones who are sadly cutting their own throats. Don't complain if you aren't actively doing something about it, either way you roll. And as for the sign, It's clever, but somewhat ignorant due to the pronunciation of Koch. However, it is their right to say what they want on that sign, and I always look forward to what they will have up there next!~
Right out of t Section 44.16.896 of Wisconsin Senate Bill 11, which reads–
“(1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).
Walker gave Koch no bid purchasing power over your local power plant for Koch's generous support. That is a fact. The Wheeler Report or just Google any of my points to read the changes in the laws favoring Koch Industries.
Bob Abeshouse
Charles and David Koch are each worth about $25bn, which makes them the fourth richest Americans. When you combine their fortunes, they are the third wealthiest people in the world. Radical libertarians who use their money to oppose government and virtually all regulation as interference with the free market, the Kochs are in a class of their own as players on the American political stage. Their web of influence in the US stretches from state capitals to the halls of congress in Washington DC.
The Koch brothers fueled the conservative Tea Party movement that vigorously opposes Barack Obama, the US president. They fund efforts to derail action on global warming, and support politicians who object to raising taxes on corporations or the wealthy to help fix America’s fiscal problems. According to New Yorker writer Jane Mayer, who wrote a groundbreaking exposé of the Kochs in 2010, they have built a top to bottom operation to shape public policy that has been "incredibly
Check out Section 44.16.896 of Wisconsin Senate Bill 11, which reads–
“(1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).
What this says is that the State of Wisconsin can sell or contract out management of state-owned heating, cooling and power plants without the requirement that bids for such a sale or leasing be solicited so as to maximize what the government can p
http://www.nnp.org/nni/Publications/Dutch-American/dabook/Chapter 10.pdf
is the full history of Koch family and the association with the Soviet Union.
It's easy to find all the facts of the Kochs and the funding of the Tea Party Movement and large contribtions to Walker.
I understand your anger and fear keeps you from researching the facts. It is hard to read the bills and the legal language but there is plenty of info explaining the bills Walker has signed. Information is powerful. Facts are facts. Having a mud slinging may feed your ego but it is so easy to Google this info. Walker wants you angry, in that state you can't think straight. Going along with your buddies in a hate feast keeps your blodd pressure up and wages down. Screaming at me while I collect recall signatures only distracts your driving on a socially designed public road. Maintained by state workers.Plowed by Town workers that you live next to. Government is for the commons. Koch Industry is for Koch Industry.
The Koch brothers are also known for their large donations to Americans for Prosperity, which is a Tea Party organization. The Tea Party has been a large force behind the effort to cut funding to public schools in states including but not limited to Wisconsin, Florida, California and Kansas.
The Koch brothers are long-time advocates of lower taxes for themselves, climate change denial, defense spending cuts and now, most recently, the effort to cut funding to public schools.
Why are the Koch brothers financing the Tea Party which is claiming we cannot afford to pay our teachers, but has not said one word about cutting defense spending? The Koch brothers do, or at least have, supported cutting defense spending in the past.
If you support the gutting of your children's and grandchildren's schools they attend for 9 months of the year, 7 hours a day, the very place that offers their future for 12 years of thier lives, you better think about what is in your complaint of the sign really?
Tell me KATHORSE, were you also on here spewing your Koch talking points when KOCHPAC donated to Jim Doyle or The Assembly Democratic Campaign Committee or Pabst Blue Ribbon Peggy Lautenschlager, or The State Senate Democratic Committee? I am guessing not. Care to bring up the fact that George Soros, the 35th richest man in the world, funds Moveon.org? How about his $470,000 grant to liberal organizations such as The Institute for Wisconsin’s Future or The Wisconsin Council on Children and Families or Citizen Action of Wisconsin and Institute for One Wisconsin or MapLight? I didn't think I seen that. How about The Wisconsin Citizen Engagement Project, Institute for Wisconsin’s Future? How about his 1.5 million dollars to the UW system in the past decade? Do you think this FAR LEFT Billionare expects nothing in return? So where is the outrage in this?
Hypocracy from the Liberal Left? No way, couldn't happen. Back under your rock now unless you care to show both sides to this
mr. Johncoffy I to felt your pain at what that Mr. Kathorse said and say kudos for setting the record strait. I always like to bring up irreverent arguments and not dress what someone actually points out jest like you do.cause I think that shows smart people can't pull the covers over are eye. You do a really good job at pointing out hypocracy (whatever that is, cause it got a wavy line.) I want you to now I am outraged to jest like you. Were do you get all the names of clubs you named cause I think there pretty good to. But I didn't seen that neither, like you said.Pabst Blue Ribbon use to be popular like Blatz and Schlitz to people in Wisconsin say but me and the boys jest learnt about that after we moved to WI. Any way its always good to find a person that thinks like I did cause its easy to find people hear in are new town that got so much in common with me and the boys. I do not now George Soros and Peg Lautenschlager but I seen you don't care for them so me neither. TIAIHGTSAT!
Well CaptAmerica, let me educate you on on Former Wisconsin Attorney General and far lefty Pabst Blue Ribbon Peggy Lautenschlage:
In February 2004, Lautenschlager made natioal headlines after pleading guilty to drunk driving in Dodge County, about an hour away from Madison. A Dodge County sheriff's deputy reported to the scene to find her STATE OWNED vehicle in the ditch, and her unharmed inside. Her preliminary breathalizer test at the scene showed that her blood alcohol level was 0.12, 50% above the legal limit of 0.08. The police report stated that she refused a blood test. Lautenschlager said that she had fallen asleep at the wheel, and had consumed only 2 glasses of wine earlier that evening. She was arrested, and later released to her husband. (Dodge County Case Number 2004TR001348) A state Ethics Board investigated Lautenschlager's case and ruled that some use of the state car for personal use exceeded state-allowed limits. Lautenschlager reimbursed some of the costs
The topic was the sign. On that point-what was on the sign. Not a rock. What was written on the sign was about the Koch brothers and thier influence on Gov. Walker. More to the point, what impact the sign has on those who don't understand the meaning. Getting off topic to other donors to other politicians could be done but why not examine the topic in this stream back and forth. What is your support for Gov Walker for? How has he improved Wisconsin? How has the budget repair bill improved your life directly? Inform me of your position. I will be glad to try to understand the positive impacts you have had. Are you benefitting financially from the cuts in jobs in the state and how?
I think the point was pretty easy to understand, for some anyway. The "koch" talking points are getting very old because the brothers are no more of a influance to one side as Soros etc are to the other. Both dems and repubs are all bought and paid for by somoene to meet an agenda. You went on and on about the Kochs when in fact the story was if the sign was "appropriate language"
Politically insightful sign. Free speech of the businessman just as the Koch millions are free speech. The little guy fights back against a puppet governor and his masters.
Kudos to Rightlightning. Solid statement about how we, as a people, have degenerated to the point where many see this as acceptable behavior and discourse. Have we really sunk this low? Just because you can do it doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Don't get yer panties in a bundle Swampy,
We just got done torturing and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians so we could steal their natural resources from them. Ain't that just about as bad as that gawd awful sign, you dimwit?
Merry Christmas!
Kathorse -
"How has he improved Wisconsin? How has the budget repair bill improved your life directly? Inform me of your position. I will be glad to try to understand the positive impacts you have had. Are you benefitting financially from the cuts in jobs in the state and how"
1. He balanced our budget...look around at other states that are bleeding and on the verge of bankruptcy.
2. The bill has improved my life because my taxes have dropped and I feel confident in the economic position of our state in the future.
Also, my spouse who is a school teacher has realized that the "impact" was very minimal overall. Sure..no one likes paying more or making less but sometimes that is a reality to get finances in line. You can't always just take (via tax) or borrow.
3. To answer the last question..Yes I am benefiting because we have a balanced budget in our state and my spouses job is secure and I don't have to worry about cutting it or her pension because of the state filing bankruptcy.
The budget repair bill includes 2012. We are going to see the most damatic cuts in the coming year. My property taxes went up while the value of my home and land went down. At the college I work cuts have been dramatic and are going to be doubled next year. Our local school lost 9 teachers. The money available in the local township has reduced road repair and replacement to a minimum.The state retirement fund is financially solid for now. With the risk of the stock market the gov entered it into, the future looks dim. If your wife is in it, you know how much money it has already lost. There was no need to take the rights to bargain away from hard working union workers like your wife. The unions were willing to negotiate the members paying more but the pressure from Koch to break the unions was too great in the halls of our capital. The on and on about Koch in my stream was to provide links to read and research the 12 points I originally stated as fact."We the people" not corporations.
Well now Kathorse at least you finally gave your motive for your insane ramblings about the Koch's with the phrase "At the college I work". Welcome to the real world...
I knew I was just giving you a bone to chew. Let me share the 17 years I did work in the real world for a Koch industry subsidary Georgia Pacific. I have thier retirement when I need it. Returning for higher education when they left the city I lived, I now work with my head instead of my hands. This brings me to the realization few on this stream are aware of ALEC. The Koch funded group who is writing the legislation Gov Walker and his party are passing. With endless financial support - your Wisconsin government is being hijacked for corporate control and profit. If you knew this, fully understanded this, there is no way you would support this. Look it up. Those who are following the 30 years of take over of the republican party by right wing extremist - libitarians who want to kill unions, spending on the commons-for corporate profit-are those of us writing or painting signs and taking to the streets. Look up Alec.
NoBama 2012
Kathorse -
" My property taxes went up while the value of my home and land went down"
That's strange, my property taxes went down substantually.
"If your wife is in it, you know how much money it has already lost"
My "spouse" is paying approximately $50.00 more a month for their benefits. I look at that as a small sacrifice to get the state finances back in line.
"The unions were willing to negotiate the members paying more"
Not true...that was only after the union boss realized their back was against the wall.
What will happen if a Walker is recalled and democrat is elected? Our taxes will skyrocket!! If you want to see upheavel between civilians and sides taken...wait until that happens in the present economic situation.
I don't want to see anyone suffer, but I also am sick and tired of federal, state, and local spending without any worry about where the money is coming from. The money trees are all DEAD.
@ Joker, you have some valid points. But the fact that you make so many spelling errors tells me you may not be as educated as you act. I feel sorry for your wife, she is likely so brainwashed by you, that she can't see the forest thru the trees. Either that, or she doesn't really care about kids (our future) very much. Why should they pay the price for our state debt? My district is also deeply affected by the cuts. Lucky for you, your district doesn't feel it as deep. @ Kathorse I respect all you say, and I also think that the conspiracy goes much deeper than the Koch brothers, and has something to do with corporate leaders, wealth, Illuminati and the Free Masons. And that folks, opens a whole new can of interesting worms. Politics are dirty and fueled by money, evil. We as citizens, need to protect ourselves and our children by taking the time to investigate, learn more, vote and choose the "lesser of 2 evils".
"mamaofmany said: "@ Joker, you have some valid points. But the fact that you make so many spelling errors tells me you may not be as educated as you act."
I have many friends who are teachers that have "issues" spelling correctly...so I'm not sure where you are going with that. Second, one can be educated at a high level without mastering grammer skills. Did I mention that those teachers who I know that arn't great with grammer also have masters degrees?
My spouse is not brainwashed, after all how could they be, they have a masters degree? Speaking of brainwashed...have you ever read the teachers union e-mails that are sent out 1 to 5 times a day to the memebers?
They (the teachers/state employees/etc.) are not the only ones paying the price, the remaining taxpayers have been paying for years. This is a wake up call at all levels of government to get a grip on spending. Economics 101, just like your household budget...you can't spend what you don't have or you will be bankrupt
What I find that's NOT shocking is if parents really think that 8,9, and 10 year olds would be offended. With everything that is on TV and all the violent video games. Don't use your children as a scapegoat. For the record Walker is a Koch Bros. Sucker. All you have to do is listen to the conversation, easily available on You Tube. Do I think this recall election matters. (I Wish) but in all reality, unless you your family are involved in politics or you are wealthy what has the government in WI done for us except taken away any possible way for the lower class to better themselves.
@wiscbeachbum - Either your 8-10 y/o kids are being raised like Neanderthals, or that is just wishful thinking on your part, in which case you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children unsupervised. What a tool.
Gotta love it ... Scott Walker is making union thieves squeal like stuck pigs. When unions have become greedier than corporations, they need to be slapped back into reality.
Flap is roasting on the spit and too brain dead to notice. Most people are awake. Kathorse is awake. Koch Walker is going down with flappy and the rest of the extremists. Power to the people.
[quote]FlapJacks said: "@wiscbeachbum - Either your 8-10 y/o kids are being raised like Neanderthals, or that is just wishful thinking on your part, in which case you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children unsupervised. What a tool."[/quote]
Just reality these days. No matter how much a parent might try to protect children from today's harsh realities, Kids learn the F word and far worse on the school bus. Kids only become animals if the parent provides no guidelines and set a poor example - such as calling other people's children Neandrathals.
[quote]FlapJacks said: "Gotta love it ... Scott Walker is making union thieves squeal like stuck pigs. When unions have become greedier than corporations, they need to be slapped back into reality."[/quote]
Wow. More exemplary behavior. I feel sorry for the teacher who must deal with your children.
The article had nothing to do with your personal issues and everything to do with the comment on the motel sign.
Given Governor Walker's attack on hard working loyal employees, who have been villified by those with an anti worker mission..it is easy to understand why the sign owner would express such strong feelings. Walker is the taxpayer's employee, yet he would privatize everything and put our tax dollars into private companies with no accountability. Friends get rich and taxpayers get ripped off. This is a governor who would immediately chat with a Koch Billionaire, but has continually refused to speak to citizens. He sneaks in the back door at events and hides from constituents. Walker is a disgrace to this state. What baffles me is that there have been no Republicans who would stand up to this hijack of Wisconsin values. It is like the country song where you "have to stand for something or you'll stand for anything". Is there anything at all that long time conservatives will stand up and be counted for? It seems not. As long as Walker has a good sales pitch ...he can do anything it seems.
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